{"id":1360,"date":"2013-03-01T14:04:08","date_gmt":"2013-03-01T20:04:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/priceactiontradingsystem.com\/?p=1360"},"modified":"2026-08-14T17:57:17","modified_gmt":"2026-08-14T22:57:17","slug":"how-to-use-price-action-structure-to-find-proper-stop-placement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/priceactiontradingsystem.com\/how-to-use-price-action-structure-to-find-proper-stop-placement\/","title":{"rendered":"How To Use Price Action Structure To Find Proper Stop Placement"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">If you have read any of our day trading manuals, then you should know and understand that we have some basic rules that we use and follow. \u00a0Often times though, people monkey around with those rules and make ever so slight changes to them, and then they wonder why they are not having success. \u00a0The first rule of our price action trading course is that you do not change the rules. \u00a0Today we are going to talk about <strong>how to use price action structure to find proper stop placement<\/strong>. \u00a0While adjusting this rule in any way might seem like a trivial thing, I can assure you that making any changes to it will affect your trading outcome, and it will definitely be a negative effect, so if you don&#8217;t learn anything else from our website or trading manuals, learn that the rules are written for a specific reason. \u00a0These rules have been perfected over time in order to give us the best opportunity to be profitable day traders.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1369\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1369\" style=\"width: 150px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/forestgreen-chicken-354304.hostingersite.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Finding-Stop-Placements-When-Day-Trading.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-1369\" alt=\"Finding Stop Placements When Day Trading\" src=\"https:\/\/forestgreen-chicken-354304.hostingersite.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Finding-Stop-Placements-When-Day-Trading-150x150.jpg\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\"  title=\"How To Use Price Action Structure To Find Proper Stop Placement\" srcset=\"https:\/\/priceactiontradingsystem.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Finding-Stop-Placements-When-Day-Trading-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/priceactiontradingsystem.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Finding-Stop-Placements-When-Day-Trading-75x75.jpg 75w, https:\/\/priceactiontradingsystem.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Finding-Stop-Placements-When-Day-Trading.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1369\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Finding Stop Placements When Day Trading<br \/>(localautomation.com)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Let me now explain how we use the price action structure to find the proper placement area for our safety stops. \u00a0Also, be sure to watch the video at the end of the article for further clarification. \u00a0First, we always trade with a safety stop: \u00a0Always! \u00a0There is no exception to that rule. \u00a0Secondly, we never use a stop that is larger than two points or eight ticks in the ES. \u00a0Different markets might call for a slightly different stop size, but in the ES, we never enter with more than a two point stop if we are day trading. \u00a0If you were to go to a larger chart in the ES, the stop size might actually need to be adjusted, but we are talking about trading a 2000 tick or 5 minute time chart in the ES for now. \u00a0Once we get a set up at one of our key entry points on a chart, we then begin looking for a signal bar to form and close, which is simply a completed bar that is signaling us that prices are setting up to move in our desired entry direction. \u00a0We are only interested in set ups that are at key entry points, so ignore other set ups and you will immediately eliminate a lot of your losing trades.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">These signal bars are normally the last bar that forms at an extreme in a correction in a trending market, or else they form at the far edges of strong support and\u00a0resistance\u00a0in a ranging market. \u00a0If you are reading the price action correctly, this will be the case in most every instance. \u00a0Once your signal bar forms, you simply place a stop order one tick above that bar when going long, or one tick below that bar when going short. \u00a0If the order is not triggered, and prices don&#8217;t do what we expected, then no harm done and we can simply cancel the order and reevaluate and look for a new entry point. \u00a0Assuming your order is triggered, you then proceed as follows with your safety stop. \u00a0If going long, your stop MUST be below the signal bar, and if going short, your stop must be above the signal bar.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ideally, you want to place these safety stops a tick or two above or below your signal bar. \u00a0It&#8217;s critical that your stop go above or below the signal bar though, because this will allow your stop to be protected somewhat by the price action structure itself. \u00a0There is a reason that prices turn at these locations, and that&#8217;s because they get overwhelmed by sell orders when correcting in a down trend, or overwhelmed by buy orders when correcting in an uptrend. \u00a0We want to use that fact to help protect our safety stops. \u00a0If your reading the price action properly, it will be very rare that prices will break above your signal bar unless you were just wrong, there was a trap set, or some unexpected\u00a0volatility\u00a0suddenly hit the market causing an emotional surge. \u00a0News events will do this on occasion, but we also don&#8217;t enter new trades right around big news announcements for this very reason.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Hopefully it&#8217;s now clear that your stop must always go above or below the signal bar. \u00a0There is a very logical reason as discussed above. \u00a0There is an\u00a0additional\u00a0rule that goes along with this though. \u00a0Your stop must never be more than 8 ticks or two points. \u00a0If placing your entry stop just above or below the signal bar will result in your stop being larger than two points, then you must find a different way to enter the trade or else skip it. \u00a0One way of getting into the trade might be to drop a limit order further back into the bar at a location that doesn&#8217;t break the two point stop rule. \u00a0Sometimes this works well, but other times prices will not pull back far enough to trigger your order and you get left behind, but this is preferable to taking a large loss of more than two points. \u00a0It&#8217;s another critical piece to the rules, so do not alter it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Let&#8217;s recap the rules again before wrapping this up.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; \u00a0Our stop must always go above or below the signal bar.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; \u00a0Our stop must never be larger than two points or eight ticks<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; \u00a0We almost always want to enter our trade using a stop order one tick above or one tick below the signal bar once it completes.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; \u00a0We never try to enter early on a signal bar, but rather we must wait for it to complete. \u00a0If you try and break this rule and enter early, you will get tricked or fooled often only to see the bar close looking much differently than you expected.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It is mission critical to your trading success that you follow our rules on <strong>how to use price action structure to find proper stop placement<\/strong>. \u00a0Any deviation from these rules will change your outcome in a negative way, this I can assure you. \u00a0We have spent many years honing this process and working to find the right combination of techniques and rules that will give us the best chance for success, so changing anything or trying to adjust the rules is only going to set you back in time and money, so do not attempt it. \u00a0If you are interested in learning more about how we use price action trading to make a living in the ES, you can find that information at\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/forestgreen-chicken-354304.hostingersite.com\/pats-trading-manuals\/\">https:\/\/forestgreen-chicken-354304.hostingersite.com\/pats-trading-manuals<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/2Jqf7MEG3tM\" height=\"315\" width=\"420\" allowfullscreen=\"\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you have read any of our day trading manuals, then you should know and understand that we have some basic rules that we use and follow. \u00a0Often times though, people monkey around with those rules and make ever so slight changes to them, and then they wonder why they are not having success. \u00a0The 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