I care across a few of Michaels live trading videos and I was like “holy sh*# this is PATs but live trading!” I just thought he was one of the members just showing his live trades (which is awesome I love watching it in action, wish you (Mack) would do them! that would be better to watch!).
A couple days later I was watching PATs youtube chart review and you were talking about him and explained what was going on. Hopefully they go away before they take too many people’s money. Don’t let them discourage you. There are so many people who have benefitted from your teachings. God bless.
Hey man, i actually found your youtube channel after being referred to it by somebody who had commented on one of Michael’s videos. Your videos are awesome, i plan on watching as many as i can and i also plan on purchasing your e-book soon. I’m sorry you’re having to deal with these two doing that to you, but just wanted to let you know you gained at least one customer from their actions and I appreciate everything I’ve seen from you so far. Take care my friend.
Also same. I had no idea that I was even searching for PATS when I started my journey, but at least their plagiarism is funneling more curious minds to your website, or at least the sort of people who are careful to double check things before spending money. I for one am glad that I was able to find you, by whatever route necessary! However, I’m saddened that you have to make extra efforts now with litigation etc. it’s not good to have that stress weighing anybody down. Please don’t let it put you off keeping up this amazing work.
Most people here including me would never have heard about Pat’s material if it wasn’t for Michael Chins videos. I am glad to see that others do there do diligence before buying. I googled Michael Chin scam and I found the info. Not that I think he is a scam but that’s just what I do to find info. I have no idea how Pats info looks yet, Maybe Chin is teaching a better course, I don’t know but if they actually are just teaching the info they learned than that is not copy right infringement. If they actually distribute Pats info than that’s different. Hopefully all this can be worked out between the guys and Pat. Truthfully, it’s easy for people to say “sue them” that cost a lot of money and time. In the end there are no winners except the government and lawyers. I am buying this material, I hope it teaches something the average people can pick up fast.
Wow was just considering subscribing to their training as the videos are I have to admit well done – glad I didn’t!! Just bought the Price Action Trader Manual instead and very glad I did. Going through it I definitely see the similarities to their YouTube videos, however the manual is better of course 😉
Great product you have here Mack.
I almost bought their online course but I wanted to wait for more reviews first due to the high price tag then I kept seeing people mention your name in their free FB group and finally a guy told the truth (of course his post was deleted by Michael and Riley). I am so glad I didn’t buy their course! I mean, if they were really futures experts, I wouldn’t mind paying more but clearly they are not and they are stealing. I don’t want to learn from such people! What a shame – they really come across as good people but you really can’t judge a book from its cover. Mack – I have just purchased your manual and I can’t wait to start learning. Thanks for keeping it affordable and posting daily videos. You have my full support!
I’m glad you posted this! I also found Riley and Michael’s youtube channels and was close to purchasing their “expert” course. But I searched up “dayonetraders.com review” to see what others had to say about it and found this page. These dirtbags will get theirs. I will be purchasing from you now. Thanks!
Hi Mack , I am glad I came across this review. I am a beginner and still learning about trading and futures. I watched few of the videos of Michael and Riley . And they advertised their site , when I checked it out I thought $400 was bit too much so I did search for a review of their site. I am glad I got to read your reviews and I agree you should definitely sue them. And I will looking through your website Pats and may even purchase it.
Really glad I found this review. Their marketing and videos are good enough to make you almost want to purchase it immediately. But glad I had the thought to see what the forums thought of their work Who knew they would be con artists! Looks like Michael Chin stopped posting videos as of 3 weeks ago. Will be buying your material shortly, thanks man.
Im glad that I found out about this. I’m very beginner and I was looking for something in the internet and I found them and almost bought their service, this is terrible… But Finally I found PATs and I’m def with you. I love your videos and I’m glad that I switched over. I’m getting your manual and it is for my personal use!
All the Best
I bought their course and studied it for a few days. at the end of their lessons there is a place to ask questions about what you just learned and general discussions about the course. someone said that dayonetraders are using pats trading methods and it started a whole lotta discussion. I e-mailed Michael that i really didnt think this was for me as i only trade forex and i only had the course for a few days and didnt even finish it. he did give me my $397 back the next day. they do come across as nice guys but i do not tolerate dishonesty and when i saw pats youtube vids I knew that was the exact method they are using. i e-mailed pat as to what manual i should buy to trade forex and he said the price action manual and I bought it about a week ago and now im a course member. thx Mack
Plagerism is the finest form of flattery 🙂
In all seriousness, I watched a few of their videos, joined their Facebook group etc. It was only recently someone pointed me to this website I discovered the truth! Whilst they may be making some money, may have a “good” yuotube setup etc – you can just pinch someones work and ideas and sell it as your own.
Mack – I’ll be purchasing your course – from its rightful home!
It’s because of these two guys that I chose to buy from you. I was interested in where they learned from because the strategy seemed legit to me, so I wanted to find the source; in my mind you were the master and they the students… why would I want to learn from the students? I’d be pissed if I were you too… this is highly unethical of them, but I’m glad I found you through them!!! Remember… In all things he works together for the good of those that love him!
These two guys are both local to my area, Seattle, Wa. I had started watching there videos with some hope that a young guy can study up and do the same things there doing (Mostly Michael). Was considering buying their course, but reditt led me here and now I am going to come straight to you guys with my business.
They have been offline youtube for a bout a month without any videos, not sure if they are dealing with this situation or have been taking a break due to the changing market conditions…
Mack, I recently came across their YouTube channel, and was immediately impressed with the system they were using. However, I was a bit suspicious of them just based on their age, and reading the comments left by other viewers revealed where they got it from and led me to your channel. While it is wrong for them to steal your intellectual property and post it as their own, at least the silver lining is that it appears to be drawing people to your site who otherwise may not have heard of it. I believe the truth will continue to come out, and they will be exposed as the scammers that they are, as the online trading world appears to be a small one. I will be buying the manual from you!
How did you come up with chin and eyebrows? That’s so funny you deserve https://youtu.be/Ut457tGNl20
Hey Mack , bought your Manuel couple weeks ago. Read it once, reading it second time. So far so good . Also thinking about signing up for your premium membership. Does it have videos that explain better. Anyway, I will have some questions soon. Thanks again! Oh, what’s going on with dayonetrader.com. Did you sue them yet? You should ! The website still up and I feel like they pretend to be experts but they are not.
People only care about outcome of making money rather than are they called experts a not. If the followers of michael chin are making money from his sharing, who cares about how michael chin ‘s mentor is. people only looks at 1. whether they can connect to michael chin ‘s teachings and 2. whether they are profitable listening to him a not
Is it straight up copy of the material? or did they add stuff to it? bc honestly there are so many people that learn from their teacher and then go and become teachers themselves… I do not see a problem with that, also their youtube videos seem to be better marketed and also their website seems to be more clean than this website…
However if its a straight up copy and plegarism then make sure you take screenshots of that and sue them… but if its not… what do you expect mack? you are selling shit online, it was bound to happen.. the only way you can kill them is to out comepete them.
The panda chap wasn’t as despicable as Smiley n Eyebrow n he did ever mention PATs videos/info was gold. That was the early part but thereafter the only constant mention was “Al Brooks” n that he only followed “The Father of 2-legged pullbacks” (Al Brooks). As far as I read bout this author he seemed to utilize 5 min for scalping while for Panda? Well he was on 2000 tick chart. Currently making cash loads scalping 10 contracts using his proprietary ABCD 2LPB indicator which he marketed for USD 149 or so…n getting more cocky along the way.
Hey guys! I am a relatively new trader who loves Jesus, and this truly grieved my heart. I was interested in price action trading after seeing some of Michael’s videos, and could see the value of the information he was providing, so I was contemplating registering for their scalping course. I had not heard of PATs until after searching these guys up, and finding this review! How upsetting. To find the sincerity in the heart of this review however, greatly encouraged my spirit, because of the character you have shown in your actions, Mack. I look forward to hopefully learning from you and the members of this platform!
I encourage you all to pray for these two, that God may show them mercy and grant them repentance, be it before or after worldly justice is served. Thank you all for your hearts
As a noob, and highly interested in Price Action after watching some of their videos, I was considering their course. But after coming across this, I’ll be purchasing the PAT course. Was wondering why the YouTube videos dropped off the map in March!! Looking forward to linking up with a true expert!
I’ve seen Michael and Riley’s youtube videos and quickly became very intrigued. When I found out that they offered a course, I was very excited. And to be honest, I almost purchased their course. But I decided to do some review searching before spending $400, and this is the first thing I read.
I am beyond disappointed but glad that I found the true creators of the content that caught my attention.
I was looking for a course on day trading and discovered Michael Chin and Riley Coleman on youtube. Further research showed that they had copied your course and led me to your site. Have now purchased a bundle of all your manuals.
Am sure plenty of newcomers will be finding you thanks to those the two…..
OMG ! And I almost bought a course from them!
Thank god, after being screwed with all types of Guru scammers, now first what I do is investigate a lot before paying for anything.
I’ll check your courses and see what can I buy from you.
Seems to be a legitimate site.
However, I do believe, you should sue them for good!
All the best!
wow wow wow. I took their course and half year later I bought Mack’s manual. Yes, my trading result immediately improved after I read Mack’s manual. I was in their chat group and I got impressions that they did not have much experiences with this strategies. Their trading styles were changing to something very different from what they taught in their course. Thing is, they did not how to trade in ranges. That’s why I searched and found Mack’s Youtube and I did not notice they copied Mack’s strategies. ( second entry-concept was new to me anyway.) I am actually very sad right now since I believed both guys were good people.
Just like most things in life. The branding and vibe sets out one product from the next. I actually prefer how Michael has packaged and delivered the strategy. Its more aspirational and suited for gen z. It’s overall user experience and iteration of the course is more pleasing, current and relatable. However out respect for the apparent founders of the strategy, I’ll also be purchasing a copy of PATs ebook.
There’s enough love and knowledge to go around in this world.
Mack, Sir, I think Michael Chin and Riley Coleman have been punished enough for their transgression. Forgive them and put this thread regarding their mistakes against you into oblivion. Hopefully you have taught them a valuable lesson in life. Hopefully they have learned from this and will do better next time. Price action trading, in general, on YouTube needs other voices like Coleman and Chin. Thank you. I hope you understand.
No Natali, they are still selling materials that is not theirs, that is fraud, and it is illegal.
Everyone needs to take action against them, even by posting the truth on their website.
If they were to stop doing what is illegal and unethical, pay for damages, and ask the. forgiveness, then forgiveness would be deserved.
They need to be stopped, not allowed to get by with scamming the public, obviously you included.
I actually found Chin before you Mack — and I had thought was this guy is a n excellent trader watching his trade videos — he was winning virtually every single trade. I very very NEARLY signed up for their courses… and then luckily found you and your free content and much cheaper book.
And yes, it’s clear they are students of yours based on how they trade. And it’s clear you were doing this long before them based on your youtube channel videos.
Thank you for addressing their unethical behavior, what Riley and Michael are doing is wrong, claiming and selling the program as their own.
I’m a Product Design Engineer, and I’m currently without an income, so I am looking for ways to economically earn an income by trading with a very small account.
I enjoyed learning about the trading strategy, and am glad for what you have developed, and I plan to order your materials when I can afford to do so.
Doing what is right is never easy, but it’s essential that we always strive to maintain integrity.
They will receive a harvest of their unethical and illegal practices, multiplied, and at a later time than when they violated your ethics, and thus violated their own at the same time.
They will receive due judgment, whether you sue them or not, but it is your legal right to protect your IP (intellectual property).
Perhaps they may be required by law to financially turn over 100% of the proceeds of their sales, should you pursue legal action, as that would be the correct ruling that a court should award to you and your company.
I’m believing the best for you, your business, and your family.
Have a great day.
Hi dear Mac,
It is my first visit to your website. have heard a lot about Mac PA.
after seeing these data and details of someone else, I really feel shame about you. It is so weird. Can’t believe see you shared your student’s detail of enrollment or so on even if that student is Michael Chin. It looks like pure immature. It is not fair and professional. I am so sorry to see such behavior from your side.
pretty sure you will not post this reply,
Just want to let you know people are continuing to find you through Michael Chin which includes me. I just found you today after questioning some things about Chin. My search let me to you through him. I have already purchased your manual and have read nearly half of it with great interest. I am so happy to have found you and looking forward to learning your system.
Ron Wilkins March 25, 2020 at
What a shame! As soon as I saw one of Chin’s videos, I knew where the techniques really came from. So obvious! I doubt any of them can actually trade or they wouldn’t be setting up these scams. Mack, try not to let it discourage you. You have been a blessing to many people!